True, that makes a point. Just the thought of such an early death *shudders*

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which is why the girl has to give birth... not the guy... as the guy couldn't handle it

So, pain is the only thing that can tell you something's not right? "The baby doesn't feel pain... therefore it is morally correct."

That might just be the biggest load of bullshit I've ever heard in my life. Pain is always subjective. Regardless of whether it hurts or not, it's wrong. If some guy were to go out and chop someone's head off with a katana, death would be so instant that the victim would feel no pain. Yet is this right? NO! That's why it's against the law!

Now, about your point: "it's inside of her." Yeah... and? Oh, "she has to deal with the medical bills, the babies bills, and much more." Is that so? The man has just as much a say as a woman does with regards to pregnancy. It is his child just as much as it is her's. That's why the man is forced to pay child support bills. The woman is not alone here... she receives all kinds of money to help raise the baby. She has the freedom to do whatever she wants with this child support money... then why doesn't the man have a say in whether or not his partner receives an abortion? It just doesn't make sense to me... whatsoever.

No shit. If she's not ready, she shouldn't had sex in the first place. If she got pregnant another way, she should've been more careful. She wants to engage in risky behavior, she better be willing to accept the consequences and not take the easy way out (i.e. abortion).

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But the fetus doesn't feel pain, someone who loses their head does, though it's brief.
Also killing is right as long as there is a purpose.

Also it's very common that the mother doesn't know who the father is. So then she is stuck with the bills.

Since when was it your position as dictator to tell women not to have an abortion because it was an accident? Say you were a kid and playing with fire, accidently burn yourself. Your parents aren't going to say "you have to deal with the consequences" and let you stay on fire. Or even if you just get like a first degree burn they are going to do something for it, not just say "fuck off, deal with it."

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i believe if you find yourself mature enough to have sex than you better be ready to face the consequences that follow such as PREGNANCY. you don't want a baby don't fuck, if you must fuck then for gods sake gice the kid up for adoption, man up!

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You aren't in a position to be telling anyone to 'man up'. The childs life doesn't matter, 'man up' and figure out that it is simply a child, nothing more than easy prey if you take 'society' away from it. Would you rather we all leave our unwanted children out in a bears den?

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I was thinking of having an abortion but I can't go through with it and everyone has their opinions.

Are you worthless idiots still talking about Abortions?

Give the topic a rest for gods sake

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Well sorry I only posted because I didn't realize that it was basically old.

Infants are not "fully grown" is it ok to kill them??