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Old 05-13-2008, 10:31 PM
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if i had to choose one... evolution.

but i dont think people really 'get' what evolution actually is. it really doesnt have much to do with actually changing, but letting the greater species survive. most people seem to think that for example... giraffes decided to grow longer necks. not really. just the ones with longer necks tended to survive, so over time the long necked versions became more popular and short necked types died out. so yeah, i believe in the whole survival of the fittest.

as for creationism... FSM!
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Old 05-13-2008, 10:51 PM
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if i had to choose one... evolution.

but i dont think people really 'get' what evolution actually is. it really doesnt have much to do with actually changing, but letting the greater species survive. most people seem to think that for example... giraffes decided to grow longer necks. not really. just the ones with longer necks tended to survive, so over time the long necked versions became more popular and short necked types died out. so yeah, i believe in the whole survival of the fittest.
Then explain how life began.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:00 PM
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if i had to choose one... evolution.

but i dont think people really 'get' what evolution actually is. it really doesnt have much to do with actually changing, but letting the greater species survive. most people seem to think that for example... giraffes decided to grow longer necks. not really. just the ones with longer necks tended to survive, so over time the long necked versions became more popular and short necked types died out. so yeah, i believe in the whole survival of the fittest.

as for creationism... FSM!
How can you choose Evolution without understanding it? Look up the punctuated equilibrium. You're thinking about natural selection, which is only a factor of Evolution.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:02 PM
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(don't ask for specifics, I'm not a scientist, couldn't tell all the exacts of this)
there have been experiments where a glass fishtank with sand and water filled the bottom, and the air inside the tank was made to replicate the atmosphere of what it would have been 26 billion years ago (by using fossil records). There were ZERO life forms at the beginning of this experiment. (they have scanners that can detect single-celled organisms, they made 100% sure there were NONE to start with).
they scanned the tank over a couple of days waiting for a single celled organism to produce itself. They kept scanning and 5 days later there was nothing.

They had forgot one thing. Lightning, so they simulated lightning with a big bolt of static electricity, what they found amazed them. A small culture of living, single celled organsims was found where the lightning had struck. therefore proving that life can generate itself without other life. Thus, spontaneous life!
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:05 PM
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(don't ask for specifics, I'm not a scientist, couldn't tell all the exacts of this)
there have been experiments where a glass fishtank with sand and water filled the bottom, and the air inside the tank was made to replicate the atmosphere of what it would have been 26 billion years ago (by using fossil records). There were ZERO life forms at the beginning of this experiment. (they have scanners that can detect single-celled organisms, they made 100% sure there were NONE to start with).
they scanned the tank over a couple of days waiting for a single celled organism to produce itself. They kept scanning and 5 days later there was nothing.

They had forgot one thing. Lightning, so they simulated lightning with a big bolt of static electricity, what they found amazed them. A small culture of living, single celled organsims was found where the lightning had struck. therefore proving that life can generate itself without other life. Thus, spontaneous life!
Wrong.

This experiment - Miller/Urey - only produced the components able to create life. Also, it was in a stable, controlled, sterile environment, which the earth was not.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:08 PM
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the one I'm talking about was a recent take on it which was more accurate. I saw it a while back on a discovery channel presents thing.
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Old 05-13-2008, 11:10 PM
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Trust me, if we were able to create life - of any kind - the whole scientific/religious/moral community would be in uproar. Please site your source or stop posting nonsense.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:20 AM
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even if I am mistaken, you ARE able to create organic matter. and we're talking BILLIONS OF YEARS for them to come together, not 5,000 or less to create a religion.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:37 AM
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even if I am mistaken, you ARE able to create organic matter. and we're talking BILLIONS OF YEARS for them to come together, not 5,000 or less to create a religion.
If you're talking about the organic matter (BABY!) created between a man and a woman, that's understandable. But you're wrong if you mean anything otherwise; because man cannot create organic matter. The theory of spontaneous generation has been disproved. Organic matter has to be created from other organic matter... except for this one time... *cough Genesis cough*.

Your last point really has no validity - considering I don't understand one bit of it (you're relating the time for a religion to start to the time -somethingwithorganicmatter-).

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