My dad sure smacked me right in the face when I did something to piss him off. I learned. Sure, some kids are good and don't get in trouble much, but when they do something of complete disrespect and they know it, you sure as hell need to smack them in the face!

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FALCON PAAAAAAAAAWWWWWNCH!!!!!!!!

Load.

Of.

Bullshit.

All children are morons. A good parent can reprimand their kid without smacking them. A smack on the backside is just as effective as a smack in the face. Lets hop out of the dark ages for just a moment, shall we?

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Well kids in the dark ages were sure alot more obedient and respectful. Weren't they?

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FALCON PAAAAAAAAAWWWWWNCH!!!!!!!!

They were also half starving to death and half retarded, but we'll ignore that for the sake of obedience!

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I'm not going to specifically answer everyone's argument. Honestly, I don't have the patience too. But I read everyone's arguments and frankly, liked them all. This is, quite possibly, one of the best arguments Arg has had to date.

Children today are bratty and it IS because of a lack of strong discipline and parenting, but it's also a cause of a greater societal ill. The 60s generation was largely influenced by the peace and love hippies. Not everyone in the 60s was a hippie (Lord knows my tight-ass parents weren't), but the hippie movement did, unfortunately, have greater societal undertones.

In Meet the Fockers, it's shown that Ben Stiller's character had 10th place ribbons in events. That is unacceptable. You do not reward mediocrity. If your son is downtrodden after loosing that play off game, then you give him a hug and tell him "You'll get him next year son, I'll start practicing with you tomorrow. We'll go over some basic drills and fundamentals and we'll beat those punks next year." You NEVER tell him it's OK he lost and this way it shows that, yes, I am your father, and I have an interest in you and I will be spending time with you, and I love you and I don't want to see you sad and starting tomorrow, we're going to work on ways to never make you sad again. But you don't buy him a piece of cake and tell him it's OK to be a failure. That is wrong. Damn I'm going to be a good father.

Social fucking Sciences like sociology and psychology have weakened our schools. It's apparent. Social promotion is the most retarded thing ever. "We can't fail a kid twice because he'll be embarrassed and we can't have that." So you get an 8th grader who doesn't know how to fucking read. THAT is a problem. Good! Let him be embarrassed. If he's 11 and he can't read, he should be embarrassed. Maybe his peers bashing him relentlessly will motivate him to read a mother fucking book!

American education is in the toilet. It pains me to say it. I am American through and through and I am a patriot and I know America is the greatest country in the world, but fucking ay, we got some dumb kids. Europe is kicking the shit out of us educationally. I'm 20, and I speak English and very bad Italian. I have been taking Italian pretty much my entire life (including just wrapping up a year of Italian in college). I can ask how to get to the train, what time is it, and order off a menu. That's about it. My contemporary in Europe speaks his language, the language of his neighboring countries and English. That's fucking insane. Also, the amount of European kids getting degrees in science and mathematics is crazy and they're getting the top echelon jobs in society as a result. And you want to know the fucked up part? THEY COME HERE TO GET THAT DEGREE! So it's not the University system, it's the American lazy ass student. People come the world over to attend our Ivy League schools, MIT, and our military academies. We have the best infrastructure in the world, we just barely fucking use it.

As for kids being tough and parents beating them and whatever, it's true. My parents never had to beat me, they just had to threaten it and I snapped in line. Except the one time I got really out of line and my mother took me into another room and slapped me one right across the face. I never forgot it and never did it again. Kids today always think someone else will fight their own battles and they really need to toughen up.

My best friend growing up got into a fight with some kid. That kid started it. He was a foot shorter than my friend and weighed about 50 pounds less. He took a swing at my friend. My friend ate the punch like it was cake and then pummeled the shit out of the kid. A squad car showed up to his house later, took him to bookings and then my friend had a juvenile record he needed expunged when he turned 18.

Kids today always fall back on their parents. They do shitty in school, they have their parents call the teacher. Kids get into a fight, they have their parents call the mother of the other kid (assuming it's a play ground scuffle and not a random jumping or whatever). Parents need to stop spoiling their kids.

In just a few short years, I'm going to be making a lot of money. You know how Thor always talks about wearing nice colon and having like 3 different sports cars and what not? I'm not going to divulge much of his personal life (or mine for that matter) but Thor is 2 years older than me and two levels above where I am in my job now. He's got shit at 22 that most people don't have at all, and I'm pulling up the rear behind him. As a result I'll be making a lot of money and my kids are in danger of being spoiled. My children will never go hungry, true, and by virtue of the fact I'll live in a nice house in a nice neighborhood, they will to. But they're not getting shit from me. If they want a car, let them earn it. Daddy isn't buying one for them. If they want an XBOX, they can cut my grass for 2 months. If they need money to go on a date, they should get a job. I'm going to make my children get a job at 14, just so they understand that hard work = payoff. A lot of kids today don't understand that. From 14 to 19 I was a janitor. I understand the value of a dollar and all the disgusting shit you have to do to get it.

In fact, everyone should be a janitor at some point in their lives, it teaches you responsibility and gives you relatability. I know people who don't clean up after themselves at a restaurant or movie theater, and I always scold them when they do. Have you ever met someone who talks down to a person who is serving them? Yes you have, and you see it all the time. How many times does some jerk off lawyer yell at the McDonald's clerk for supersizing his fries when he didn't want it? All the time. Not me. When I go to a store, it's always "How are you, sir/ma'am?" "Thank you sir/ma'am." It's common fucking courtesies people don't have today. Whenever I go to a catering hall, I always talk to the poor grunts working there and I get better treatment from them. You know why? Because I treat them like human beings, which most people don't do.

The moral of my rant is thus: Kids are spoiled brats that are ungrateful because they're the product of parents that wouldn't discipline them and live in a sick society that needs to wake the fuck up and shape the fuck up.

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That was the best post I've ever read.

I'm ridiculously spoiled, living in an upper middle class home in the richest county in America, but I know I'm spoiled. A lot of my friends go "dude, you have this big house. You're rich!"

My answer is "So are you. We all are."

My parents did something that I still can't even fathom. It was really amazing. They raised a dcent kid who works hard and gets almost all As in school with hardly any punishment. I've never been grounded, I've never had things taken away, and my 'rents have raised their voice a total of two times that I can remember. Yet they found a way to keep me a solid kid.

I think most other parents just suck. Kids can only be as good as their parents.

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You know that it's a fool who plays it cool by making his world a little colder.

Actually, I agree with you 100% here. Awarding mediocrity is really silly. At the same time, I don't think it is necessary to pummel your child for mediocrity.

I agree. The American Educational System is horrible. But honestly? If it were up to me and I ran my own country? I would barely fund the educational department passed a certain point. No matter what you do, the educational system is always going to be in the toilet. What I would do is encourage self-education with the enormous disposal of technology we have at our disposal and provide resources, so people have more time to learn about various different subjects. That's my approach to it and I'm sure you disagree as it's a somewhat radical approach, but that's how I feel about it.

Nice colon!?

I do, as well. What's worse is how freely people litter and leave their junk around. Just about everyone in my school does that and I chastise them about it.

I worked somewhat as a janitor. My step-father owned a cafe/convience shop inside of a condominium. I did all of the cleaning, manned the counter, stocked the shelves and equipment, cooked food, made sandwiches, etc. Twelve hour work days on tuesdays, wednesdays and thursdays. Sixteen hours on mondays and fridays. Great learning experience.

I do, as well. The aforementioned lawyer probably has the "special sauce" in his food. It's a very bad idea to talk down to the people who handle your food. Nevertheless, Odin is right. You can have the wealth of Bill Gates and still show common courtesy.

I'm assuming you talk to your parents a lot and did so from a young age. That always helps. I have a great relationship with my mother, so really... all she has to do when I eff up is talk to me.

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You know this is the reason why I started learning German? My ex came here, with 3 languages under her belt:
German (native), English (school taught), and French (self-taught)
Plus she was taking a Spanish course while she was here.

I know almost no one who even knows 2 languages besides those who grew up in different ethnic backgrounds (mostly spanish). Once I had the basics of German under my belt, I started learning how to pull the English language apart, and I could answer questions in World History that no one knew shit about or ace a Foreign words/Phrases vocab test without even studying.

It's simple things like learning another language that could make us great, but this generation is too lazy to man up and accept that greatness. Honestly, and as much as it pains me to say it, that just makes my climb to the top so much easier. I won't have to kick, push, or stab my way through others to get there. I'll be the only one qualified, and that's pathetic.

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I'm thinking of buying Rosetta stone for German. Try it out for a bit.

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I'm currently learning Chinese. I also took a Japanese course before and I'm reading a book on Latin.

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