Haha well. I written about 10 pages of all these. I have showed my whole "guide" to quite a few community since they are all good buddies and i trust them. I started to write them down because after i told my a great deal of friends what to do, they said i should write a book. Now a book im not sure, but i'll write whatever i know. And over time it just kept expanding.

Buttt i dont know if you guys want to read it all so im going to ask if you want me to post it all on this thread or you just want me to message/email it to you.

And of course you are going to wonder, do they work? That's for you to find out and i can assure, many can say yes to it. But thats all up to you :]

Anywho, should i post here or just message to those who wants it?

*edit* Ok i started it on the 6th post. And it continues for 4 more posts.

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No. Go away. Never come back. Noone fucking cares.

Sure, let's see what you've got to say. Hopefully it's better than what other pathetic hopefuls in the past have tried. Post here.

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Yeah, hopefully his tips aren't like that other guy who said "a girl will stay with a guy if she is attracted to him."

Let's see what you've got. We are always welcome to new good advice.

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Ok. Here are all my tips and experience i have learned. I have been slapped and kicked in the groin to get these.
Believe me, these aren't only for one night stand things. They're also not just technique base. Read it all. They'll benefit you as a whole.
Many times i've been pestered by those who have yet to try any of these. Try them before judging them with full force. Those who tried i have yet to get negative feedback.
Also many women read my things and a good half did not like it. I understand, but until they've been through what i have listed, they agreed. Also at times, they may seem to show little respect to the woman, but trust me, i am one who would not disrespect any woman.
I am also not forcing you to do any of this. If you do not like it and like your own way, that is completely fine with me.
I'd love feedback and success stories so if you don't mind.

Then i shall begin.

General things
First and foremost, when trying to attract a woman, logic doesn't usually follow so dont rely on logic! Let me give you a list of things that does not logically follow. Took a lot of editing but this is it.

These work completely with attractive woman. Why? Because they are constantly approached and they have to quickly blow off men they dont see capable. But these still hold true on all woman, just to certain extent on their personality. But also again, theres the exceptions, dont take these to the extreme as if it is the primary base of every understanding. These are just "General" things.

You: She:

Give Compliments ---> Is repelled
Notice flaws ---> Feels affection

Act humble ---> Feels repelled by you
Act arrogant ---> Feels attracted to you

Call often ---> Doesn't call you often
Don't call often ---> Call you often

Ask her to decide ---> Thinks of you as insecure
Always decide ---> Appreciates it

Act unselfishly ---> Doesn't like being around you
Act selfishly ---> Likes being around you

Accept her drama ---> Doesn't respect you
Never tolerate drama --> Respects you

Express feelings ---> Needs space
Show no emotion ---> Expresses feelings.

What? I'm also sure that theres plenty more things i didnt cover that logically follows yet. Haha if your a science major, it may be difficult to let go of logic. You can still be highly ethical and highly successful with woman.

I don't care if you think you don't look hot. You can get a very attractive woman based on your personality. You can be an average 5, and from there on, your personality and the way you act with her will bring you up to a 10.
LET GO of the fear that if I lose this one girl, i'll never get another again. It will only drive them away, they can feel it.

Before you do any of this. You need to be certain about yourself. I just read an article on Self-belief. I will sum it up here. I don't take credit for this. But i will present you it.
The Pyramid of Self-Belief:
You'll see it when you believe it.

The ceiling on your future potential will substantially be defined by your own belief of what is possible. One of the most important things we can all do is to make sure that we're not cheating ourselves by laboring under a cloud of self-limiting beliefs.

Self-belief is developed at four levels. Imagine a 4- step pyramid, with self-concept at the foundation and self-confidence at the top. Each element rests upon those below, and the whole process is iterative:

Level One, Self-Confidence: An underlying awareness, either implicit or explicit, of your role as a human being in this universe. What do you see when you look around you: a world of scarcity and risk, or a world of abundance and oppotunity? Evidence for both views abounds, though we tend to see what we look for.

Questions like these cannot be answered in an absolute sense, but rather depend largely on what you choose to see as you look around you and within you. Your self-concept will have a profound influence on your personality, though, and upon the results you get in life.

Level Two, Self-Image: What do you see when you look in the mirror? A winner? A victim? You will never exceed your self-image. If your self-image is that of being a victim, no matter what happens, you will always be a victim.

One of the main reasons a majority of people who "win" big in the lottery end up bankrupt in less than two years is that they still see a victim when they look in the mirror, and end up blowing all their money to establish consistency between that inner self-image and the outer reality. On the other hand, the self-perceived winner who loses everything will eventually find a way to get it all back.

Level Three, Self-Esteem: Do you like what you see when you look in the mirror? Do you believe that you are capable of achieving your dreams and goals, and that you deserve to enjoy the fruits of your success? Do you believe that you are worthy of the affection and respect of other people? People with high self-esteem get a lot done and make substantial contributions; people with low self-esteem tend not to. Low self-esteem is often an insidious excuse for cowardice (fear of rejection) and laziness (fear of failure). The four essential elements of self esteem are:

- Accept yourself as you are, warts and all, and don't beat yourself up for those things that you cannot change.
-Identify those warts which are not acceptable and begin consciously working to eliminate them.
-Avoid negative influences and actively seek out positive ones (people, places, media).
-Accept complete and total responsibility for your circumstances and outcomes, and refrain from blaming other people for your problems.

Level Four, Self-Confidence: This simply means that you feel like you have what it takes in terms of skills and resources to meet the challenges of your life and to effectively pursue your dreams and goals, or you are reasonably certain that you can obtain whatever you need but are now lacking. Genuine self-confidence is usually quiet, as opposed to the loud boastfulness of cockiness.

Important caution: Enhancing self-belief raises the ceiling, but you've still got to climb the ladder. You have to believe that you are capable of achieving your most authentic goals and that you deserve to enjoy that success, but you've still got to do some work.

Something to think about: "It's better to make a mistake with the full force of your being than to carefully avoid mistakes with a trembling spirit. Responsibility means recognizing both pleasure and price, making a choice on that recognition, and then living with that choice without concern."
-Dan Millman: Way of the Peaceful Warrior

Somethings to practice and thing about that i've come up with: Every morning and/or night, look infront of the mirror and look right at yourself in the eye. And say, I am good, or something positive about yourself. At first i tried but i had trouble to say it confidently. Say it when your dad, mom, someone close, or friends by your side. If you can look yourself and not be embarrassed while saying it. You're making progress.

Heres a diagram that well sums up everything that was not in the article.
At the start you have Idealistic. Which basically means you're totally impracticable, it's how you want everything to see. But as you realize none of this will happen, You go down and reach the second level(noticed i said go down). Frustrated. As we are frustrated we will then continue moving down and hit, Defiant. Where you are resistant. You continue and hit the bottom of everything and this is called, Resigned (Either surrender or act passive-aggressive). This is the critical point, the point where everything changes. These are necessary and everyone goes through it. Now you begin to move up and hit, Awareness. This is where you see a whole new range of things, opportunities, and just become excited. You pick something and this is where you become, Decisive. This is what you want to do, and finally you'll reach the peak and become, Committed. But notice, because you are so commited or rather the most commited. What were you also when you were the most commited? You were the most idealistic. So think of the diagram as a U or a spiral. Because this is starts itself again, and this is the evolving and learning process of life.

I try to stick between awareness and decisiveness. Stay aware of possibilities, deciding on them, trying them out and moving forward with them. And then maintaining my awareness. Not getting too stuck on an idea.

Practice and think about these. They will help you in life not just women.

Now before we get any deeper, keep in mind, all these you will have to do with experience. You can never be perfect the first time.

Here are some ideals that we all thought about but they just don't work.
-"I try being myself in the way she'll like me for who i am." But of course attractive woman are often approached so they blow off men fast. So intstead, I thought of some techniques to get past the persona. Like original things. When i first meet, I said, "Sup fool!" Normally they get compliments, saying just that makes her interested and it's also quite funny. Try it!
-I saw lots of guys in relationships and basically they literally, "I want to tell her that she's special and that I have feelings for her." Haha, no. I realized they will instantly read you as wussies early on. Then what should i do? Just hold off, lay back, and show her your different.

This is continued in my second post because i exceeded the limit.

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Continued, Part 2.

Flaking and turning the tides
Here's an issue i always had trouble understanding. It is something like "flaking" best way for me to put it. Say, we make plans and she doesn't show up because "something" came up. Why?! Then something clicked. Remember when i say logic so far never follows. So I thought, how about a turn about? For example, When i talk to a girl and say, "Hey, why don't we hang out on Friday?" She'll say, "ok cool." I respond, "Alright, why don't we get together at 7?" Then she says, " alright... "Call me"." BAM then i lose it and think what? didnt i just say hang out at 7? I'll say, "ok.. uh alright.. bye." I know it's not going to work.
-How about... I flip the tables around. I tested it and heres the result. I say (hope you realized this is on the phone so far), "Why don't we do something this weekend?" She says, "Yea that sounds great." I respond, "Alright cool. You know, maybe Friday or something. (Then guess what I say!) ... "Call me" Friday night and maybe we'll hang out." (This time i flipped the dynamics around.) Then I continue saying, "Alright, I'll see you later, bye!" Hang up. NOW, she's getting that same feeling that you use to get. Now she'll be thinking about "you."
-Something ironic I tried after that is not going. She'll be like, "I. I tried to call you Friday, where were you?" I said, "Psh iono i went out and did something." She sid, "Well i thought we were going to do something." I reply, "We didn't have definite plans. We said we were going to "talk" Friday night." Now i notice, shes trying to push back and get together with me.

Conversations
-Another tip with phone conversations. Always keep it short, and end it where it starts to get very interesting. Don't let the conversation drag and gets boring and then she'll leave with the impression of you being boring.
-Complain about something in a serious tone, then give a sly smile. There is always something she will do and mess up. Complain about it in a serious way. Like too serious.
-Now this one takes experience. Interpret everything she says as her wanting and needing for your approval and attention. This will put her on the defensive and she doesn't have any material. It's awesome. Here's an example. Say were hanging out and she goes and say shes going to go and get a drink. Now in your mind, misinterpret that as if she is asking you if you want a drink. I'll say, "Woah woah, now thats not going to work. Just because your going to buy me a drink doesnt mean I will go back home with you tonight."
Comment on little things, like she raises one eyebrow. Then say, "Ah, looks like i got one eyebrow."
-Voice, tone, and body language appears to cause way more attraction than words (for all you who just want pick up lines).
-Give them cute nicknames very early on. They love disney princesses so give them one that they remind you the most of. Ooo, especially when they get mad, I say, "Alright, Sparky, calm down." Why give nicknames? I think it shows that you are already comfortable with her and we all know we give nicknames to those we know for a while.
-Always end interactions
-Take control of situations
-Maintain strong eye contact with the girl especially if it's your first approach.
-When you tease, it shows you aren't intimidated and your funny.
-Let things distract you once in a while, if your having a conversation turn away once in a while and let something that catch your attention. If you pay too much attention on her every move it'll show that your too involved in her.
-Remember just misinterpret everything shes doing is a way to pick you up. And turn things around when she tries to take control of the conversation to remind her that she just screwed up her chances with you.
-Suspense is also great in initial conversations. Walk up to a girl and say, "Hi, you are realllyy....... beautiful." Suspense. The pause. Pause a lot when you are in an interaction.
-Again be funny! You know your standing next to a tall girl and she has high heels. You can say, "What are those like 7 inch heels? I bet your like 4'11" without those things on."

Have integrity as well as a little bit of fun. Now i'm not saying being totally honest, just have a little fun. Tease her.

Don't answer questions directly!! It's boring. Say she asks what do i do. As you know i like to make movies. I say, "Oh i get people and tell them to stand infront of this camera, and i hand them a paper and tell them to do whatever it says. I take whatever i recorded and go home and edit it and make them act really dumb." Never answer their questions directly.
Heres a good one that'll always make things fun. When she asks what do you do. Be like, "Uhhh uh yeah.. i probably shouldn't tell you." She'll be like what what. Then say, "Umm.. I'm an ass model." Just by looking at you, it couldn't be true. Then go, "Wanna touch it? (while turning your ass to her." Then go, "Nah you know what, i got an early call time tomorrow, don't want to have it bruised." She'll definately go and just grab it, and just be like hold her off and yeah haha.

Girls will always be testing you whether they realize it or not. Always try to keep a higher social status then her.

How do i get her phone number in minutes?! Heres some ways:
-Start a conversation. Say hey whats going on. Make interesting comments on whats happening. Say something funny. Ask a couple of normal questions "What you do around here" "You live around here" Make a couple of jokes be cocky and funny. Then when it time to go separate directions, you want to be the one to end the interaction, dont let it fizzle out. End it on a high note. Say like, "Alright im gonna get back to my friends. It's good talking to ya." Turn away. Then say, "Hey. Do you have email?" She'll most likely say yes. Then get piece of paper and pen/pencil and say, "Here, write it down." As shes writing, when she reaches the @ symbol. Say, "Oh, make sure and write your number there too and your name. Shes already writing the email in the middle of it. She'll definately say like oh of course and she'll give you her #. Now if you really want to have some fun. Say and point to it, "Is this real?" "Is this a number you actually answer?" Sometimes they'll say, "oh thats my page #" Or whatever. Then say, "What are you doing, put your number down." It's good. Then say, "alright, take it easy." And leave. All that shows no intention that you want to go on a date, that your going to call her, not communicating that your in love with her. It leaves some mystery involved. She'll be thinking, is he going to call me? Whats going on here? Really simple, just like 3-5 minutes.
-Usually theres not a lot of time talking to a girl. Say you saw a girl working. Go and talk to her. Say, "Ah you know what, you ever have anyone analyze your handwriting?" She'll be like, "uhh no not really" Then say, "Here write down your name real quick." Look at it and go, "hm. very interesting. Then say, ok, write down your phone number." She'll go, "what?" Say, "Write down your number" She does, then say, "You know i just dont have time, later." Then leave. haha it's really funny and she'll find it funny too. Builds anticipation, she'll remember who you are then call her etc.

How long should i wait until i call her after getting her number?
If you wait like week or two or three, then you better be real smooth and charming and know how to build all that back up.
If you call her an hour later, you might give off the impression that your a little bit needy.
I think the 1 to 2 day range is the best time to hold off until you call.

Things not to say to a woman.
Ok so, dont say these things. Like i said, i tried everything to get all the results and be sure whats good and whats not good.
-Don't say to a girl:
You're sexy/hot/bangin/a babe or anything related to sexual things. Especially those lame pick up lines like oooh your legs are so blah blah blah. Why? Because it is said to them all the time by other lame guys and they interpret you as some guy who's just looking for sex.
-Instead you should say that she's beautiful/pretty/gorgeous/stunning/and other things. But at times i think it's better to spot something wrong with them and tease em about it.

Continue to next post again :]

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First Impressions and general experience from a friend.
Ok, so a friend, who's 22, told me a lot of things she knows. She also learn a lot about things with relationships. I highly suggest you take these in mind. Well this will be hard to explain since this was all in person. Keep in mind, i covered some of these already above. But im just jotting down everything i remember.
-A handshake. Ok, first off when you meet a girl, you can start with a handshake. Lean forward a little. Keep arms equally bent. And have the "web" part between your thumb and index finger with hers and wrap your hands all the way in. It shows you're not afraid of her and if you give a firm grip with a light pressure, it shows you're not a wussy. If you keep it equally bent that would be best, if it's pulling back, it shows you want her, if you're distant, it shows you are a little afraid of her.
-The #1 quality a woman wants in a man. Self confidence.
-Eye contact. Strong eye contact. But make sure there is indeed some attraction of course.
-50% is just how you look. She wants to see if there's life in your eyes. Some people, theres just no life. They want to feel that energy.
-30% is how you sound. The sound of your voice, woman are much much more sensitive too. Which means, having like no hesitation or reserve in your voice.
-Woman see's sooo many things about men and instantly write them off. There can be one girl and 100 guys around, and you will be lucky if you are one of the 8 she's attracted too. Thats how picky they are. That's why dont feel like it's something you do wrong. It's just how the woman picks men.
-Respect the woman as a person. She'll swing so far with a guy she feels like husband material. Even if she doesnt want to get married, but there is something she feel will she you as husband material.
-There's a very specific moment when you pop, the date question. A woman wants to be appreciated, especially the very attractive ones, because however she considers herself her essence. She maybe spiritual, or comedian that could make anyone laugh, or a lady, or a leader. What you do is wait until she says something pertaining to her personality. When she says somethings really spiritual, you can say like, oh i would really like to talk to you more about that. Boom, now she feels like she's being appreciated. Like she is loved the way she would like to be loved.
-Have a sense of style. Get nice clothes, woman are excellent at seeing nice cloth material.
-Etiquette. Holding arm across street. Knowing how to sip the wine. Now i'd love to explain how, but i really dont know how to add all the sound affects and motions to sipping wine. My bad. But you can keep it in mind. Now im not old enough for drinking but remember this was from my friend.
-Do something that is emotionally stirring for her. She loved the ballet and used that as an example. She transfer all her feelings about the ballet, onto him. It is also better if it's something frightening. Something that puts you in a dominant position.

Internet Dating?
Haha i gave this a shot. Real life dating and internet are two completely different way to tackle. I highly prefer in person but the internet is getting quite vast. Well it's definitely opposite than going to clubs because in a club, the woman has all the power when all the guys hit on her. Now i saw tons of those "dating" sites and basically it shows, hey she wants a guy. You have more power. Unfortunately i mainly used myspace and other sites similar. Since im not really old enough for the other sites. I was able to use a friend's profile for match.com and totally revamp his site and gave it a shot with him.

Think that there will be no such thing as failure and instead just learning experiences. Many guys are just technique oriented and outcome oriented. That'll bring you down.

Treat her like a person, not like a hot piece of ass. That mindset is powerful You'll definitely get results.

Woman look for meaning. And a lot of time the women say she feels the guy does not act confident or seem confident. This applies in every situation with woman. That is why i highly suggest reading the article i placed and the things i suggested. Then she's going to think, since he's not confident, he's usually not successful with woman. Then she's thinking, if he's being rejected and no one wants him... then i dont want him. This is all from confidence, now we dont think like that but that's what happens.

But here ya go. Techniques.
Start with an opening of course. Say something like, "Hey, your profile caught my attention."
Second, tease her, bust on her. Tease them about being a man, they'll always try and prove themselves they arent like, "Listen i hope you're a girl and not some 60 year old pervert.(Be creative with things like that. Add more to it, like absurd things. They love it)" Even if they arent interested, they'll still try and prove themselves. If they misspelled a word, take the definition of the word and just give em it. It's a lot of fun, have fun with it, dont take things too seriously. You know, it's not a job, just spend like an hour a day doing this stuff haha.
Thirdly, mention something about yourself. You got my concepts down, use them.
Nextttt, you want to qualify her. You know, you have that criteria you want a woman to meet. Ask her questions. Simple things, like, "What are you listening to right now? Whats your deal breaker with a guy, first things you notice when you meet a guy." Things suited to you.
Last but not least. Don't leave the thing open ended and the girl just doesnt know what to do. Just tell her what you want to do as a result. "Thanks for reading the message/email. Get back to me later, i have more questions i want to ask you." Leave a little hook at the end. Assume she will. Dont make it seem like you're begging her. Just assume she will.

Again, give mixed signals. She'll never know what to do, find you interesting and mysterious, and become intrigued. She'll be coming to you.

Create jealousy. "Sorry it took me so long to reply, im just getting way too many messages/emails from the site."

Hahahaha wanna be really fun? They'll love it. Make a point system :] You know, if she said something nice/cool, say like, you get 10 points for that. Get a 100, you get a date, 200 you get to kiss me once :]

Say things like, "you know, i'm not too sure about you." They'll keep asking what arent you sure about etc.

When you get her #, call her asap. They just get sooo many messages it's scary. So you have to qualify her quickly. Just call her and say like, "hey hope you're not as scary as the last girl i met." Qualify her.

Random things. Say, "Well, good luck with your search." She'll be thinking, oh, is this not going to work, and she'll try to get with you.
Funny things, "You know, i'm reading the book you mention on your profile, but you probably stole it off mine to score some points with me." "Nice hair, did you get drunk one night and stick your head in the food processor? (Hey if she doesnt laugh at that, then i dont want her. You may get hate mail, but just say, yeah well, good luck with your search.)" Sometimes, they'll think oh no he's getting rid of me. The ones that do laugh, and you end up getting with them, they are tons of fun. Again, qualify them. Don't waste 30 minutes talking and wasting your time. Just get rid of the ones that arent of your interest. Don't be afraid of upsetting a woman. Enjoy it, don't always look at the result. The end result will come eventually.

Continue on...

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Clearing doubts.
Apparently some think these are stupid and only work with sluts or high school girls. Ok thats fine. This doesnt work for everyone. But it's not stupid and it will not only work with sluts and high school girls. I got in a huge argument but was able to prove my points.
These hold true. Fine example, my friend's parents said her mom fell in love with her father because he actually made her feel like a woman. Why? She was a director of a nice corporation, i forgot what it was, but she was always making the decisions, always deciding, being the lead. The father on the other hand, maintained a higher social status even though he wasnt as successful as her he maintained it and he made most of the decisions.
Also, many buds have tried it and been successful. Not one was not. Plenty more, but i am not going to waste my breath since i will not force you to try it. I just find it irritating how ignorant some people can be when they can say something about this and not even try it. I also never said i was hot stuff or anything, i simply just began jotting down things i thought were fine, then eventually was told they were great and build up on it.
So tell me it doesn't work on older women that are reasonable and not sluts. But hey, if you guys like older women, go for it! Wrinkles rule!

Other things i have just added and did not organize.
-Don't do the pretend not to be picking her up thing, just get rid of that idea. Lose the whole, how can i fly in under radar so she just thinks that im just a nice friendly guy. Get rid of that idea. In fact. Be direct. Go and say, "Are you single?" But the way you say it to look a little suspicious. Don't be all seductive. Just simple say, are you single? Girls never are approached directly, and they will answer honestly.
-Suggest the times you are busy, not the times you are available. It shows that you have a life and things like that.
-Take her to places where theres a lot going on so there'll be plenty to talk about. Dont go to lots of expensive places otherwise it'll show that your trying to impress her with money.
-When your out shopping, don't stand by her everywhere. Say when you get in a store, say you're going to like the jeans compartment. Shows you are independent. She'll eventually come and look for you.
-Predictable is your enemy. Send mixed signal. Say your kissing. And you stop and say, maybe we should just be friends. She'll be like what? Then kiss her. Say she sits on your lap you put your arms around her. Next time she does, push her off.
-Usually you hold hands after you kiss. But you can before you ever have. Hand reading. Basically, tell her, "You know, your hand says a lot about you. Have you ever had your hand read?" She'll say, "No i havent" I say, "Here let me see your hand." Grab her hand and look at her palm. Say hm. Then hand her hand back to her. She'll say, "Well, what did it say." I say, "Let me see again." Grab her hand and tell her something about her. Then say, "Let me see your other hand." Then next thing you know, you'll be walking together holding hands.

Ah great, so you read it all! I'll reward you with a secret i learned. Some ask, "why can i easily talk to girls?" Well i didnt know either. I didnt know it was a natural thing or not, but that couldnt have been it, because i use to be shy. The secret is, i always budget my time so i am always hanging out with women or simply talking to women. "Thats a secret?" Well because, this way i am always refreshing myself with talking with women and it becomes so natural that all these become second hand and there will be no way i will ever forget or lose it.

If you have anymore questions ask me. That's what i formed thus far. I'll probably update it along the way. Before you question them. Have you tried it? Go and try it. Don't do it exactly the same, but use them as a base.

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