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Old 04-11-2008, 10:02 PM
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Default Chapter 5 - Value Your Gifts

I usually wait a few days in between chapters, but a post from the last chapter got this idea going. I decided to post it before I forget. In short, it was saying how they respected me and my advice, so I decided to cover "respect" amongst other things.
I'm going to post this warning as well: Don't take my words, examples, or other various means of getting my point across, and try to argue against them to get a rise. It's a pointless waste of time and space; Rather, if you have reason, argue the point of the story as a whole. I accept all challenges to my thoughts, because I am trying to evolve in my thinking, the same as you. However, bullshit won't stand.
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Problem

Tommy comes to me sobbing and saying he didn't know what to do with his life. Recently, his girlfriend, of 8 months, broke up with him. She had caught him cheating and found that she couldn't deal with it. They had started out as best friends, and he really cared for her. So he comes to me the other day, hitting me with more bullshit than I could handle at once. "I still love her, I just messed up...etc..etc." Okay, I'll feed your pathetically, angst filled mind with precious sentiments. "Shutup! Fuck.." As I've stated so many times before - I'm really a benevolent deity, so I decided to help my friend out. Though, I ran into a problem.

I went to Tammie about the situation. Tommy and she had been arguing for about a month now. He gets mad when she speaks to other guys, but he can flirt with other girls all he wants. So they stopped talking for awhile, and another girl, Jess, moved in. Since they weren't broken up, Tommy made a breach of trust by taking this girl out, and kissing her in public. So of course, there isn't much I can do, and I decided to not interfere with Tammie's thoughts about the relationship. Tommy comes back, asking if all is well. Nope, but I say "Just go to her, and genuinely say you're sorry. Other than that, and constant begging, there isn't much more you can do." Why does Njord, the greatest of Vanir, have nothing to suggest for Tommy to get his girl back? Because at that moment, I had lost all respect for Tommy, plus, there really wasn't any advice I could honestly give him.

Solution

There is none.

Tommy has to seriously hope that Tammie sees that his good outweighs the bad. However, Tommy did the one unforgivable thing in any relationship: He broke her heart. When you begin a serious relationship (not puppy love) with someone you truly care about, know that you both are making a promise to each other. You're allowing the other to see your heart, and have faith that they won't break it. This faith is the source of intimacy, trust, romance, and love in any serious relationship. It allows you to draw closer together, until it seems that you are them, and it hurts to be without.


Conclusion

As human beings, you have certain gifts that you can impart to others:
Love, respect, friendship, trust. These gifts are fragile, and can easily be broken or lost. What's worse is that most times, it's very difficult or near impossible to get them back or repaired. Value the gifts people have given you. Clean, polish, and put them in a safe place. Guard them so that no one can take them away. Also, realize what values a person should have before you start to give away your gifts, because handing them out to the wrong people makes it harder to give them out again in the future.

Further Note

I like to stay current with my topics. What I see running rampant through the forums and my own life is what I talk about. However, if you have a topic you would like me to address, please PM me. It's not guaranteed a chapter, but I will at least think about it.
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Well, you're quite obviously a realist. I'm the opposite - an idealist at heart.

I suggest you take the following quiz, it's only a few minutes long.

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Here's my score: You got 30 points.

This score may not mean much to you now, but you will be able to incorporate into your future to see the big picture. Like Lennis and George in Of Mice and Men, you are not looking to the present. You are more interested in the possibilities that be. To find out more about the possibilities that exist for you and other idealists, like George and Lennie, hit the back button on your browser to return to the Symbolism SAQ homepage and find out more about your own big picture.

Though I know the test was just made up by a schoolteacher wanting to attribute personal characteristics to literary figures, it's a decent test nonetheless.


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As human beings, you have certain gifts that you can impart to others:
Love, respect, friendship, trust. These gifts are fragile, and can easily be broken or lost. What's worse is that most times, it's very difficult or near impossible to get them back or repaired. Value the gifts people have given you.
I disagree with everything there except the first and last sentences. For one, yes. We do have gifts. I believe they come directly from the Holy Spirit - and while we may not agree on the source, humans have gifts nonetheless. The gifts may be fragile, but we will never fully lose or break them. Whether or not we choose to live these gifts out (as a Gospel message) is another story. Don't take me as a pedantic... I'm not criticizing you for this little point. Rather, it's comforting for me to know that I will never lose these gifts. Ever. They're with me for my entire life, even through my times of sinfulness. I can choose to live out these gifts in the company of people (love, respect, friendship, or trust).

And just as the Holy Spirit has given me gifts, so too have other people. I'm not being arrogant - but I have an incredible gift for patience. I directly trace this gift to one of my past theology teachers who took the time to explain some concepts, even to my blatant disagreement.

Now on the story as a whole. One Bible excerpt really speaks to me about this.

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses.

(Matthew 6:14,15)

If I ever got the chance to speak to Tammie, I would speak to her about forgiveness, above all things. Not in the hopes that she would "get back together with Tommy," but to help her in future relationships. Forgiveness is the number one safety cushion in a relationship. If anything goes horribly wrong, there is always the chance to be forgiven.

As for Tommy, he made a mistake. He was jealous, and "breached Tammie's trust." I'd advise him to take a break from relationships. If he cannot engage in an honest, one on one relationship with a girl he claims to truly love, then he is not ready to be in one at all. He must learn maturity.

"A mature person is one who is does not think only in absolutes, who is able to be objective even when deeply stirred emotionally, who has learned that there is both good and bad in all people and all things, and who walks humbly and deals charitably.”

- Eleanor Roosevelt
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*wipes tear* That was beautiful man. *blows nose* That really brought out my emotions. I...I....I, ah....*sneezes*
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Well, you're quite obviously a realist. I'm the opposite - an idealist at heart.

I suggest you take the following quiz, it's only a few minutes long.

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I disagree with everything there except the first and last sentences. For one, yes. We do have gifts.
It was an analogy, I wasn't speaking of gifts God imparts on us, but gifts we impart on each other. Sorry for not making that clear, I actually meant to put that but it was lost with my rushing.

As for forgiveness, let me finish my book first.
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I see the point

I also see "Cherish what you have and dont screw up"

But I understand most of this,my old relationship on my end was great,until she was cheating on me and wanted to break up

Then sadness came on.

But the kid in the story screwed up,he shouldve respected his girl and not went on flirting with every chik on earth
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But the kid in the story screwed up,he shouldve respected his girl and not went on flirting with every chik on earth
Yep, the underlying point (though Guru seems to have missed it) is that you can easily love, respect, trust, or befriend someone. However, once someone breaks those bonds, it's hard to repair those relationships again.
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^ Exactly

Me and my Ex are still good friends,though we both dont live in the same neighborhood,we both moved outta there,she did 6 months before christmas,I did 2 months ago
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i got 20points in that quiz!
Me too. Wazzup fellow realist?
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